Chapter 4, Page 10

September 17th, 2019, 2:00 pm

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Reply AssaultBird2454, September 11th, 2019, 12:20 am

Ooh, OHHHHHHH! My question! I second that question!

Reply comercole, September 17th, 2019, 2:28 pm

@AssaultBird2454: good question.

Reply cloudpool, September 17th, 2019, 2:28 pm

"it's never right to steal kids" really??

Reply Dotpoint, September 17th, 2019, 2:48 pm

I still can't get over why a flock of wingull would need a sailship for.

If they had a giant peach to tow around, it would make more sense.

Reply MouseWithADinosaurTail, September 17th, 2019, 3:15 pm

@Dotpoint: They use it to smuggle things.

They're smugglers.

Reply Dotpoint, September 17th, 2019, 4:29 pm

@MouseWithADinosaurTail: Okey, but wouldn't flock of pelippers be much more easier, stealtier and faster way to smuggle items?

They are using pelippers as ride pokemon in anime and if we assume those are for child passengers ages 10-14, one pelipper can carry between 35-55 kg (77-121 lb) with ease. That also makes the beak around 40 litres or 10 US gallons large.

And if we are talking about bigger smuggled quantities, Briney can just switch into something more valuable goods, which require more stealth and speed to move around. Like drugs.

Reply MouseWithADinosaurTail, September 17th, 2019, 4:31 pm

@Dotpoint: Counterargument: It's a fantasy pokemon story, who cares.

Reply Dotpoint, September 17th, 2019, 4:37 pm

@MouseWithADinosaurTail: Can't argue with that.

Reply pkmnMasterWheeler, September 18th, 2019, 7:41 pm

@Dotpoint: I don't think u realize just how much a large ship like that can carry. So since I'm a nerd I decided to look up the carying capacity of 15th-16th century ships. Fortunately I found a neato formula to find out, cause it's a ship run by tiny little wingull, so prolly smaller than an actual ship, which was

Tonnage = (Length x beam x depth) divided by 100. Dimensions are in feet. Beam is the boat's width at the widest part.

You may notice it's measuring in Tons, so there's a sign of things to come. So using the shot on page 4 with the Pelipper, the shot on this page, and using Pelliper's canon height, which will prolly get a lower number than actuality since Pelipper is longer than it is tall, and we're using his legnth to get these measurements. With that in mind and my powers of ROUGH ESTIMATION and ROUNDIN TO MAKE IT EASIER, I got, 3 Pelippers wide, 4 widths long, and 2 widths deep. Putting that in the formula is:

(48ft x 12ft x 24ft)/100 = 138.24 tons

Which would be aboutish, 276,480 pounds, compared to the 121 you mentioned for the Pelipper. It would take a flock of 2284 Pelipper to carry what this boat can at the weight you mentioned. Or, looking at it from the opposite end, to keep the crew of 12 they seem to have (assuming we've seen all the pirates already) each one would have to carry a weight of 23,040 pounds to match the weight of what the boat could carry.

This is a very rough estimation, but that's a pretty large margin for error, even if I was WAY off and it can only carry half or even a quarter of what I got here, that's still way more than would be reasonable for them to carry with Pelipper instead of the boat. This is also assuming the Captain fires all members of the crew that don't evolve, as of the 12 pirates we've seen, there's only been one Pelipper

Reply MouseWithADinosaurTail, September 18th, 2019, 7:44 pm

@pkmnMasterWheeler: Wheeler, I absolutely love you. <3

Reply pixlyJolt, September 18th, 2019, 9:53 pm

Wheeler! :3
Also, I absolutely love Pokémon science and stuff, like Lockstin & Gnoggin (definitely recommend watching)

Reply Dotpoint, September 19th, 2019, 9:09 am

@pkmnMasterWheeler: Okay, first, props to you Wheeler for actually using effort and doing research.

I will take your measurements and I think Columbus' ship Nina is much more realistic ship to compare. It's roughly the same size and and from the same age and would not carry a Jagdtiger tank (sorry, but yeah).

Nina had a crew of 24 sailors and leaders. Briney is a tad short on sailors. Also, if Briney had a cargo of let's say 20 long tons, it would still be 896 sacks of 50 lbs.

That is about 75 sacks per sailor to empty, counting in Briney and Peako and the tiny wingull. If there are smaller pieces, it will be easier, but take more time. It must take days to empty and fill the ship, and because Briney is secretive, I assume he hasn't hired stevedore pokemon to help unloading or he hasn't built docks to ease the cargo unloading.

I'm saying that Briney has way too large ship for his needs and what is convenient.

And I'm deeply sorry Mouse that this devolved into this argument mess.

Reply MouseWithADinosaurTail, September 19th, 2019, 9:23 am

@Dotpoint: Okay Im gonna say one more thing and then the conversation is over cause this is extremely annoying.

Pirate crews smuggling contraband into Hoenn will often sail days, weeks, or even several months to reach other continents/regions to trade with, and thats just one way. Whats easier? Putting all the contraband on a single boat with a crew of a dozen? Or loading all the contraband on a flock of a thousand pelipper (which, mind you, all need to be paid) and having them fly 24 hours a day for weeks on end without stopping in order to smuggle?

This is a rhetorical question. Now shush. (Still love you, Wheeler)

Reply mrjacob77, September 17th, 2019, 3:30 pm

I understood that reference!

Reply MouseWithADinosaurTail, September 17th, 2019, 3:37 pm

@mrjacob77: I wasn't making a reference. XD

Reply Dotpoint, September 17th, 2019, 4:29 pm

@MouseWithADinosaurTail: Mouse plz, he was talking about the peach part.

Reply Pokemon151 (Guest), September 17th, 2019, 2:53 pm

Hmm that’s a good question Shelly

Reply mrjacob77, September 17th, 2019, 4:13 pm

Ah! I thought I was replying to Dotpoint!

Reply Dotpoint, September 17th, 2019, 4:33 pm

@mrjacob77: You were and I'm glad that someone else got that obscure reference.

Reply Silvertheumbreon, September 17th, 2019, 9:19 pm

Bird's on a ship, Is like birds on a plane. I guess with imagination (and also this being YOUR story) anything can go.

Reply JoeytheShuppet, September 17th, 2019, 11:18 pm

"It's never alright to steal kids!"
You don't say?

Reply Julian or Yoshidakid, September 18th, 2019, 12:02 am

Honestly I hope he's ok :3

Reply Shruikan, September 18th, 2019, 2:56 am

I just now noticed the Milotic figurehead on their ship.

Also, good old Shelly, asking the questions the audience have been wanting to ask!

Reply Jellyblob (Guest), September 18th, 2019, 6:28 am

@Shurikan: I agree

Reply Mopruk, September 18th, 2019, 11:37 am

The universe will expand into heat death before I get tired of the seeing the captain say "ye."

Reply :P (Guest), September 20th, 2019, 12:42 pm

@Mopruk: Are ye sure?

Reply SealedSalt, September 21st, 2019, 1:17 am

All these complaints about birds having a ship... do people not realise how energy taxing it is for a bird to fly? Flying for them is like running for us. It increases their metabolic rate and therefore a lot more energy (aka food) is required to sustain flight. Migratory birds are often incredibly malnourished and out of condition once they reach their destination, some dying from exhaustion, simply because of how much energy it takes to cross ocean channels without breaks. If I was a bird and I had the option to fly over the oceans or use a ship? Hell yeah to the ship!
I for one really love your pirate wingull crew, Mouse, and I think it’s a very humorous and enjoyable touch to the story.

Reply MouseWithADinosaurTail, September 21st, 2019, 10:01 am

@SealedSalt: Ahhhh, thank you very much! :'D This comment was an incredible treat to wake up to!

Reply Mystic Fire (Guest), September 22nd, 2019, 11:19 pm

People are complaining about a bunch of birds running a ship?
thats where u draw the line in this universe?
shes not saying they built the damn thing and I think birds can run a ship
Probably with some modifications granted but its possible

Reply somerandomguynumber1, September 26th, 2019, 4:37 am

Lessons from Cedar #1 Do not steal kids!

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